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Synopsis

Seinfeld is right

Seinfeld is right

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Kramer is right

Kramer is right

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Summary

Seinfeld’s dilemma of truth versus compassion was compared to a Talmudic debate about how to complement an ugly bride. While both values are considered very important in the Jewish tradition , Beit Hilllel claimed that you cannot offend someone for the sake of sticking to the truth. An interesting rebuttal was made that this will lead to a phony polite society where you can never know what others are thinking of you (as illustrated in the Seinfeld ugly baby episode).

The discussion moved to  terminally ill patient dilemma.about his body a Rabbinic ruling made the point that not telling the truth will create a panic in other patients who will be burdened with insecurity about their own fate.

The Discussion

  • michael barmatz

    Seinfeld vs Kramer Seinfeld vs Kramer (צפיה בדעה במקור)
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  • Nathaniel Waxman

    Kramer is right because one would want to know if there is something wrong with their partner. Even if they… Kramer is right because one would want to know if there is something wrong with their partner. Even if they decide to listen or not, they should be told if there is something off. (צפיה בדעה במקור)
  • Editor

    (צפיה בדעה במקור)
  • michael barmatz

    Hillel vs Shamai Hillel vs Shamai (צפיה בדעה במקור)
  • Editor

    You should always praise a bride for her beautyy. you cannot offend someone just  because of truthh. see the Talmudic debate…

    You should always praise a bride for her beautyy. you cannot offend someone just  because of truthh. see the Talmudic debate here

    (צפיה בדעה במקור)
  • Contradict
    michael barmatz

    Always?! and what if she is ugly? You cannot liee:!! praise her, for what she is. see the Talmudic debate…

    Always?! and what if she is ugly? You cannot liee:!! praise her, for what she is. see the Talmudic debate here

    (צפיה בדעה במקור)
  • Rachel Coll

    Beit Shamai is like Kramer because he thinks that you should just be straight up with people. Beit Shamai is like Kramer because he thinks that you should just be straight up with people. (צפיה בדעה במקור)

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