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The bystander’s challenge | עמוד דיון

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The bystander’s challenge

Should one risk himself for others?

Rabbi Akiva

Rabbi Akiva

If you cannot save him without sacrificing yourself – save yourself.

there is no obligation for a person to save another's life at the expense of his own. As it is written:      " Your brother should live with you' " your life comes first.



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Ben Petura

Ben Petura

"Your brother should live with you"
you cannot abandon your brother: even if both of you  die than that one see his friend's death.




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סיכום ביניים

In Jewish law, there is a biblical obligation to save lives.
The Biblical verse "You may not stand idly by your neighbours blood"
(Leviticus 19:15) is understood by the Talmud to be an obligation to save people from danger (Sanhedrin 73a).

However, it is necessary to define the parameters of this obligation. Does the bystander have to endanger himself to save the victim? Does the bystander have to spend money to save the victim's life?

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Alana Spellman

Joshua Silverman

Tamar Willis

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Ben Petura's logic comes from the notion that no one life is more valuable nor important than another human being's life. Therefore, one cannot choose between which life to save, and both people should treat each other with mutual respect. In upholding the morality of "ve'ahavta lere'echa camocha," both humans in this situation are acting in a just way; they are treating each other the way they would treat themselves.

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  • x

    I agree with your statement and response but my only question is when in a situation where you have to choose which person to choose, what criteria do you use?

  • Contradiction

    Alana Kessler

  • Contradiction

    Alana Kessler

Talia Weiner

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Ari Spellman

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  • Max Sosland

  • Tamar Willis

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אלכס רויזמן

אלכס רויזמן

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  • Ari Spellman

Tamar Willis

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  • Ari Spellman

Alana Spellman

אלכס רויזמן

x

what would the Torah say in this case ?

what would  R Akiva say?

Answer

Alana Spellman

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  • אודי ליאון

Alana Spellman

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I think just by saying that "thy brother may live with thee" doesn't justify one putting another's life ahead of their own. All I think it's saying is that you should live with your brothers and sisters (neighbors) in peace.

Alana Spellman

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    Ari Spellman

Sam Feldman

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In the Torah it states that if you see your fellow's ox fallen or lost, you must not ignore it. Even more so, if it is lost, you must return it. Returning the ox to the owner is an act that goes above and beyond. One could simply tell the owner that the ox is lost, after all this action is better than ignoring the problem. However, the example uses the most noble possible action: returning the ox. Therefore, in the case with the movie star it is important that the PA does as much as he possibly can in order to aid his fellow (the makeup artist).

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19.02.2018 20:43

what is "As much as he can"?

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Talya Dovas
19.02.2018 20:39
In the case of a woman being harassed by a man, one does NOT have the responsibilty to do the maximum in his power to intervene and prevent the harassment. According to Jewish law, one has a responsibilty not to stand idly by in a life-or-death situation, in a situation that involves grave danger especially physically. Sources of support: "Do not stand idly by your neighbor’s blood In the Torah, it specifically states "blood" in order to highlight life-or-death situations such as drowning, being attacked by bandits, or being dragged away by animals “And you shall restore it to him” which can also be read as: and you shall restore him to him, saving his body” (returning property to its rightful owner) This highlights the physical harm that is necessary in a situation that requires intervention. Also, many arguments in the talmud regarding being a bystander involve seriously dangerous situations in which one is "being pursued"

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